Family: Forez (de) Ide-Raymonde / Tonnerre (de) Renaud II (F1487)
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Tonnerre (de) Irmengarde (1030-1085)
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Nevers (de) Guillaume Ier (1029-1098)
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| Forez (de) Ide-Raymonde (1065- ) |
| Tonnerre (de) Renaud II (1045-1089)
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Nevers (de) Ermengarde (1080- )  |